“MY THOUGHTS ON.. THE DCEU: IS IT DESTINED TO FAIL?!”

Greetings, ladies and gentelnerds and welcome. 
Today I wish to discuss a question that was brought to me by a friend on twitter (@marvelzombiek) Back when i asked for ideas for my 200th blog. (clearly i saved it for a later blog and i think it comes at a good time too.) 

He asked, “Is The DCEU Doomed To Fail?” and I’ve been contemplating on that for awhile now. At first, i would have said, ‘No.’ But.. I’m not so sure about that now.

 A lot has happened, so allow me a moment to go down some details.

BVS: Dawn Of Justice: 

Was supposed to be the official kick-off of the Warner Bros. Pictures DC centered “Cinematic Universe” (I honestly hate the ‘Extended Universe’ Tag) after the successful, but criticly scrutinized ‘MAN OF STEEL’. Things didnt go according to plan. In, what looked like, an attempt to play catch up with Marvel Studios. WB shoveled in so much plot into a dull plotted movie. It was embarrassing to watch as a fan. They hoped to set up an entire universe with 1 single film. Big mistake. The film was about 2 and a half hours long and they shoved about 3 movies worth of material in to it. (for further thoughts on BvS, check out these past blogs,  https://themarvelincblog.wordpress.com/2016/04/03/what-went-wrong-with-batman-v-supermandawn-of-justice/  and https://themarvelincblog.wordpress.com/2016/04/24/how-dcwb-should-have-set-up-the-dcecu/

SUICIDE SQUAD: 

An improvment over BvS and a big risk for WB.  But still lacked a cohesive plot and suffered from poor editing. Although a much more financial success. But still got rammed up the ass without vasiline by the critics and most fans. 
THE FLASH: 

Is having the absouloute worst luck. The film has lost 3 directors. 2 screenwriters. Is currently on a full page 1 rewrite of the script and has no director at all. Its amazing the shit this project is going through.
NOW: 

Wonder Woman is still dropping in June of this year followed by 

Justice League in November. Those two films are probably WB’s last grasp at making this Movie Universe have continued life. I hope and Pray, WW is going to be awesome. I cant be anymore excited. Justice League.. Is yet another Zack Snyder directed film.. Fingers crossed is all i have to say about that.
Furthermore.. As I am putting this article together.. So much more has come to light from WB and the DCEU. 

BATFLECK:

Has decided not to direct the upcoming Solo batman film. One that he himself has co-written and is executive producing. Its also being reported that He is looking to negotiate out of his contract with WB and no longer be the Bat. So lets see What happens with that.
SUICIDE SQUAD 2: 

WB is looking for a director for the sequal, now that David Ayer has decided to turn his attention to 

Gotham City Sirens (IF that even still happens) On that short list of Directors they are courting, Mel Gibson is one of those people.. (More on that in a later blog.)
Look. It is not DC’s fault. It’s Warner Bros. Fault. For soooo many years.. Decades even. They have sat on the thier DC property as if it was nothing but a small cash cow that they can dip into every couple of years or so, once in a blue moon. Superman and Batman being their get rich quick guys. “Put 40-50 mil into this movie. Get 200+ back in return.” They dont give a flying fuck about anything else..

Until they saw the potential of Billions these “Comic Book Movies” could make, once Marvel studios started doing their thing. 

WB executive: “Hey Disney’s making billions over these picture book movies. Lets buy the rights to some of these things and do the same.”

WB lower executive: “Hey, we own a bunch of these things already!”

“WB Executive: “Since when?!”

WB lower exec: “the 1960’s” 

WB Exce: “Really? Well then.. Get to it! Just do what they’re doing” 

It’s sad really. Warner Bros. Is a fantastic film company. They crank out awesome movies, every year.. But they care about money. They care about awards. They care about profit. If it makes them money, and gets them Oscars and increases revenues.. To hell with everything else. WB’s doesnt care about building a universe. Or what it takes to do that. 

The mistakes they’ve made have been because everything they have done thus far has been in reaction to something else.

Marvel phase 1- Man of Steel

Marvel phase 2- BvS

Guatdians of the galaxy- Suicide Squad

Fans loved Wonder Woman in BvS- make a WW movie.

Fans liked Harley Quinn- give her a stand alone movie.

Batman was awesome in BvS- Push back certain release dates and work in a Batman movie.

All reactionary. They didnt plan any of this ahead of time. Cause they dont really care. As long, as it makes money. 

WB despreatly needs to find the right people to run this show.. And make DC Studios a reality. Do what disney does. “Oh, you need x amount of money for this? Ok. Have fun!” and let DC do what it CAN do best. 

Dont be like Marvel. Marvel has always been known for interconnectivity with its stories for many years. Its what they do best. DC.. Has always been about character and Story. Not universe’s and connectivity. It was always about the stories that made their books stand out from Marvel.

Thats what thier movies needed to do. Have their franchises establish themseleves and then later, if the story was right.. Bring them all together. 

That opportunity has gone and passed. As much as i would like them to just go back to the drawing board.. Its probably too late.. 

“Is the DCEU doomed to fail?”..

Maybe.. Maybe not. Its gonna be a hard road ahead for us fans.. But in order for The DCEU to survive and be successful.. WB needs to.. Backs The Fuck Off!! And find someone or a group of people that can set it all together before its too late.

Look, thats all i got folks.. I hope things work out. But thats my answer. I cant say its doomed or destined to fail.. But as long as WB is involved.. It just might Need to, in order for something to change for the better.

Let me know what you folks think. Until next time folks.. Peace out!

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6 thoughts on ““MY THOUGHTS ON.. THE DCEU: IS IT DESTINED TO FAIL?!””

  1. This is a good piece, well thought out. I agree that it’s all been reactionary. They can’t emulate Marvel’s success, even though they think they can. I’m not optimistic, because even with Geoff Johns involved they still ROYALLY screwed up Green Lantern. So we’ll see.

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    1. Thank you so very much for reading. Truly appreciate it. Im not sure how heavily involved with GL Geoff Johns was, but yeah. I honestly dont think WB allows anyone to have final say in any of these movies. Which is wrong. They dont know what needs to be done. They just want profit and care for little else.

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  2. I agree with this post. I’ve said for a long time that WB acts like they’re embarrassed that they even own the DC universe and don’t have a faintest idea what to do with it. So they trot out a Superman or Batman movie/TV series every so often so they feel like they’re getting something out of owning them, but other than that they don’t give a damn about any of it. And time after time I’ve watched as DC’s heroes get lost in the “Hollywood-ization” of their stories.
    The 70’s Superman was good for its time, but Clark as a bumbling fool and Gene Hackman as Lex ruined that set of movies for me. The ’89 Batman movie, while a vast improvement over the 60’s show. still had Batman killing and killed off the Joker at the end. The sequel had similar problems, then Joel Schumacher took over and…well, you know what happened.
    I actually liked Man of Steel (and Watchmen) but the loss of life in Metropolis disturbed me. I “get” that it was a reference to the losses of 9/11. But Superman has always been about preserving life. Then BvS had Batman killing again. These Hollywood types think they’re “humanizing” the heroes, but DC’s heroes have always been about their ideals, about inspiring others. Marvel’s heroes are the gritty, more human, fallible characters.
    Until WB cares about their characters, DC’s movies will continue to have problems.

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    1. I can defend the man of steel destruction thing just a bit. It was way overboard, agreed. But in the context of the film, hes only been ‘superman’ for about an hour or so. He just met all of these people like him. He got the suit just the day before zod arrived. He had no clue what the fuck he was doing. Lol! This was a novice superman. If he had been superman for a longer period, i think he would get the idea, “hey! Maybe we should take this fight away from all these ppl. And also, the world engine is what caused the most damage, although superman and zod didnt help the situation. BvS was a trainwreck. And yes, WB doesn’t know what to do with DC, and they dont care. Thx so very much or reading, really appreciate it.

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